Wednesday, July 17, 2019

Turkey Rightfully Buys Russian S400 Air Defense System, And Now The US Retaliates By Taking Turkey Off The Horrific F35 Program?

I have been attacking the fallacies of the horrific and most decrepit American built Loughkeed Martin F35 "Lightning II" so called fighter aircraft for years now.... I have no qualms in calling that POS probably the most useless and worthless piece of junk today, and have stood firm in stating that this so called 'fighter' will in fact make any nation that is stupid enough to buy this turkey much weaker defensively.....

Well, just a few days ago, the Turkish government went and decided to fulfill their want to purchase the Russian built S400 air defence system, in spite of the threats made by the US Government that has been ordering Erdogan's government to cancel the S400 purchase.... Erdogan has stood firm and has not only purchased these fantastic Russian built systems, but is presently in the process of deploying them right across Turkish territory!

I always knew that with this S400 system purchase by the Turks, that the American government would indeed retaliate in some sort of manner.... And lo and behold, but according to the following article that comes courtesy of one of my fellow Canadian real truth seekers, Penny, who of course hails from the wilds of southern Ontario, and writes the blog "Penny For Your Thoughts" at, the American government is indeed retaliating against Turkey by canceling the Turkish participation in their laughable F35 program!  Here is Penny's article right here, and I do have my own thoughts and comments to follow:

Wednesday, July 17, 2019

US Officially Removes Turkey from the F-35 Program

Turkish leadership knew this was coming from all my reading and reporting

Defense News 
"WASHINGTON — The U.S. has removed Turkey from the F-35 joint strike fighter program, and Turkey will lose its production work on the jet by March 2020, following its acceptance of the S-400 Russian-made air defense system last Friday.

However, a top Pentagon official would not close the door on Turkey rejoining the program in some form, should it reverse the decision to buy the S-400.

The White House issued a statement Wednesday confirming the move, which Washington had threatened for months.

“Turkey’s decision to purchase Russian S-400 air defense systems renders its continued involvement with the F-35 impossible,” the White House statement read. “The F-35 cannot coexist with a Russian intelligence collection platform that will be used to learn about its advanced capabilities.”
“Turkey has been a longstanding and trusted partner and NATO Ally for over 65 years, but accepting the S-400 undermines the commitments all NATO Allies made to each other to move away from Russian systems," the statement continued.

Shortly after the statement was released, the Pentagon held a rare on-camera press conference to explain the process moving forward, with Undersecretary of Defense for Acquisition Ellen Lord and Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Policy David Trachtenberg.
“Turkey cannot field a Russian intelligence collection platform in proximity to where the F-35 program makes repairs, and houses the F-35,” Lord said. “Much of the F-35's strength lies in its stealth capabilities, so the ability to detect those capabilities would jeopardize the long term security of the F-35 program. We seek only to protect the long term security of the F-35 program.”
Turkey, a partner in the F-35 program that helped fund the development of the jet, planned to buy 100 F-35As. Its first jet was rolled out in June 2018 in a festive “delivery ceremony." Though Turkey formally owns its jets, the U.S. has said it has the power to keep the planes from moving to Turkish soil and intends to keep all four existing Turkish jets from leaving the U.S.
Lord avoided saying that the door was shut on Turkey returning to the program should the S-400 be removed from its soil and repeatedly used the term “suspension” to characterize Turkey’s status in the F-35 program. When asked twice whether Turkey could be welcomed back if the situation changes, Lord did not give a direct answer one way or the other.
“At this point, the Turks have made a decision. We have said the F-35 and S-400 are incompatible. We will work forward at this point to unwind the relationship,
" she said.
The Russian defence ministry has published footage of what it says are the first components of the system being delivered to Turkey

Turkey has so far not publicly reacted to the latest US move, which was widely expected.

 From yesterday:

 More coverage linked below... because the issue of the S-400 purchase and all that it entails has been covered here at PFYT's for a long, long time.

Turkey's S-400 purchase: Syrian Escalation and Worsening of the Eastern Mediterranean Situation and  S-400 Arrives in Turkey. What's next? & U.S Forces Staying in Northern Syria INDEFINITELY &  Will U.S. Bill Create a NEW ORDER/REMAKE in Eastern Mediterranean? 

 From a comment earlier this week
Hey GC: yes Turkey was involved in the manufacture of the F-35 as well as having invested around 1 billion dollars in the f-35 program-

"Ankara has invested over one billion dollars in the F-35 program. It was supposed to receive 100 planes, as well as produce components for the fighter."


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She also added that currently Turkish industries produce approximately 937 parts for the F-35 jet, most of which are related to aircraft landing gear.

NTS Notes:  I want to thank Penny again for bringing this information forward....

Honestly... This is "retaliation"?   Considering the fact that the F35 is such an abysmal piece of shit and would have ruined Turkey for the next decade, in my estimations the US actually did Turkey a huge favour here!  IMHO, I will say good for the Turks!

Yes, I had to laugh when I first saw this report... For again, I know from my own research about what a true piece of garbage the F35 truly is, and how the US has been forcing their "allies" to purchase and put these flying lemons into their own service...

Now with Turkey free from having this POS rammed down their throats, they can go out and purchase some real fighter aircraft that can actually fight!  If the Turks are already purchasing the vastly superior Russian made S400 air defence systems, then why not turn to Russia to get some Su35 or Su37 fighter aircraft that would blow the F35 easily out of the sky!

Maybe it is now time for other nations to also threaten to buy Russian goods to get them the hell away from the terrible F35 program?  Canada especially does not need that hunk of junk added to our air force, and the Trudeau government would do itself a favour by cancelling the entire F35 program and seek a real fighter plane from someone else...

More to come



greencrow said...


The funniest part of the entire farce was when Turkey rationalized the S-400 deal by saying that NATO should be pleased about the purchase because when "one NATO member was more secure...then that made ALL NATO members more secure"...lolol. What Turkey was drawing attention to by that logic was the fact that the US DID NOT WANT TURKEY TO BE MORE SECURE WITH THE S-400.

The US has twisted itself into a logical pretzel in this as in many other cases of international relations.

Penny said...

Hey NTS and GC!

Thanks for the link to.

GC is correct the US did not want Turkey to be more secure- In fact they wanted them to be insecure. And have done everything to make that so.

Adrian Chetwynd said...


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