Wednesday, February 17, 2016

The War Against Syria For Its Destruction And The Genocide Of Its Citizens: Turkey And Saudi Arabia Are NOT Going To Invade Syria, And Here Is Why!

Like everyone else that has been watching the reports coming over the Jew spew media and even alternative news sites over the last while, I thought that there was indeed a danger of further escalation of the conflict in Syria by direct "intervention" by both Turkey and Saudi Arabia into the conflict....  There was a fear that this escalation could have caused a direct conflict between the United States and its allies, and the Russian Federation and its allies... Such a conflict could have gone global with the strong possibility that it could go nuclear with the destruction of billions of lives around the planet itself....

But some things did appear strange in the reports... We saw the reports of some impending "war games" in Saudi Arabia that were about to commence over the next while that involved some "350,000 participants" along with some "3500 combat aircraft" and "20000 tanks".... I looked at the numbers that were thrown out here and to me they were ridiculous and laughable from the start... .First to get some "350000 participants" involved in these war games in the deserts of Saudi Arabia is a serious undertaking and takes MONTHS to gather these forces, not including the massive logistics and support involved... Then we have the ridiculous number of aircraft in that to have "3500" combat aircraft involved is ludicrous considering there are barely that number in the ENTIRE Middle East, including the psycho state of Israel's own air force... Therefore the "3500" aircraft is a lie and someone's twisted dream.... But the real kicker is the "20000" tanks involved, and I thought "What are these reporters smoking?"   There are NOT "20000" tanks in the entire Middle East as well, and in fact there are barely beyond that number of tanks right now in the entire world!   To gather all these forces for "war games" would be a task that is physically impossible.. To me, someone threw out these impossible numbers just as part of a massive scare tactic hoping people would swallow it without doing their own research......

Then we have the idea that there would be "direct intervention" by both Turkey and Saudi Arabia into Syria... But anyone with common sense would just look at a map of the Middle East and ask themselves.... HOW?   Saudi Arabia for example is not directly adjacent or bordering Syria at all... For the Saudis to 'attack' Syria would mean crossing either Jordan or even Iraq just to reach Syria... And I seriously doubt the Iraqis would not be too pleased by having this foreign force into their territory, let alone Jordan.......  Therefore the ONLY direct route for the Saudis into Syria would be through their "ally" Turkey... But again the logistics in moving Saudi forces into southern Turkey and then have them part of a Turkish-Saudi ground force for an invasion is logistically a nightmare.....

I therefore can only conclude that something else is up, and what we have is a propagandist's work here in fear mongering of a "Saudi-Turkish" attack on Syria that is not forthcoming any time soon.... But what then is the real truth about the Turkish-Saudi situation in regards to the situation in Syria?  Well, believe it or not, but some truth does surface from time to time, and I want to turn to a most interesting article that comes from Jim Stone's website, at, where apparently a Turkish man was able to get some real information out that bypassed all the censorship in Turkey today......Here is that report out of Turkey for everyone to read for themselves right here, and I have my own thoughts and comments to follow:

The writer from Turkey got through. 

Background on this: A few months ago, right around the time of the Russian involvement in Turkey, a Turkish man started trying to send me the real story from Turkey. It was not consistent with the MSM and a lot more detailed. Then the mail censors really got going and I did not get anything from him for months. Well, my latest trick at trying to get the mail past the censors worked, and this message from him got through.

This is how it is, from a man on the ground in Turkey. It is a very long read and is very likely to be far more accurate than any other source: Jim,

It seems that your window is up and running again. I couldn't get anything through to you since December. To me that's just further proof of the extent to which 'they' are close to shutting down all venues outside of their direct control. As you seem to be almost literally the only place left outside of the hasbara "control both sides of the opposition" juggernaut, let's give your readers a bit of the real story about things here in the middle east. I will hold off from discussing the nature of the ties between Turkey and Israel, though, as that seems a good chance to have been behind the cut off in communication.

Do not be misled into believing rumors of Turkey's advance into Syria. Although the usual suspects in the 'alternative media' have been quick to announce such an entry, that is simply a click-bait fabrication. Without the direct 'boots on the ground' participation of the US, or at very least, a coalition including major NATO players, neither Turkey or the Saudis are going in by themselves. However,there has been a major development which changes the internal dynamics of Turkish politics in such a way as to quite possibly rule out the chance of it in any circumstance!

There have been recent reports on the part of armchair analysts playing up the idea of the Turkish Second Army moving into the disputed region between Azaz and Jarablus in northern Syria, in order to prevent further advances of the PKK-allied Syrian Kurdish forces - as well as to prevent their jihahi proxies being cut off from supply lines originating in southern Turkey. Even were this 100,000 strong armed force mobilizing for a foreign incursion, a simple look at the troop positions these reports are based upon would call into question the whole notion of a move in said direction. The greater part of that group's troop strength remains poised around the southeastern segment of the border, very much in proximity to those parts of Turkey's Kurdish majority provinces where a virtual state of siege has reigned for over three months. If those same elements were to be withdrawn now to be redeployed in the far western zone above Aleppo as claimed, it would be an invitation for the PKK to send fresh fighters and equipment into the most unstable and contested part of the Turkish border region.

When I wrote in December about the pending movement of Turkish armed forces through Iraq in preparation for a campaign against Kurdish YPG forces along the northeastern border with Syria, there was every willingness on the part of the military General Command to take this action - as opposed to their unilateral refusal to make any such incursion into the central or western parts of the shared border with Syria. It had a plausible chance of success -via surprise- and a low level of potential blowback. All the pieces seemed in place.

First, the longstanding presence of Turkish troops already in the breakaway Kurdish part of northern Iraq gave precedent; and armored columns whose movements could be more or less hidden due to the absence of Iraqi control, along with complicity on the part of their Kurdish allies in Erbil would be free to pass themselves off as part of a force moving against the jihadis in Mosul. Secondly, being outside of the range of Russian aerial forces operating from the Latakia region on Syria's Mediterranean seaboard, the necessary air force protection of ground units could be counted upon.

The government in Ankara has recently claimed that PKK opposition in Cizre and other towns has been snuffed sufficiently as to allow a withdrawal of army personnel. There was every reason to expect such forces could be speedily reassigned to the pending plan for a pincer action against the part of the Syrian northeastern border with Turkey and Iraq where PKK militants freely enter and resupply through. At the close of last year it was an action which could be quickly accomplished via overwhelming force and tactical surprise. In January however, two unexpected developments changed the strategic situation dramatically.

January's Turkish incursion into northern Iraq, instead of securing the blessing of the Americans, was implied by the latter to be a violation of Iraqi sovereignty - which the Iraqi government thus felt emboldened to vigorously denounce in international circles. A new 'special negotiator' empowered by the White House to supercede the activities of the Pentagon-embedded neocon faction previously running foreign policy in the region, had orders - and the authority - to bring the Turks to heel over the issue of their training and supply of the ISIL forces in both Iraq and Syria. He delivered this news in sequence on visits to the capitals of Erbil, Baghdad, and Ankara, as well as letting it be known that the Americans were opposed to any attacks upon the Kurdish YPG forces operating successfully against the jihadis in both countries! This shocked Ankara.

McGurk's public and private messages completely undercut the stated pretext by which Ankara had justified sending armored units into neighboring Iraq - that they were assembling there as part of an international coalition's advance against ISIL-held Mosul. Ever since the great power's negotiations in the aftermath of WW 1 - which would set in place the political landscape which still reigns over the middle east - it has been the obsession of every Turkish regime to regain contol of the former Ottoman protectorate of Mosul, and it's oil rich environs. No one seems disposed to help them with this fantasy however. Even less so today.

The second bit of bad news came from the opposite direction. The Russian's inability to project their air superiority into eastern Syria and northern Iraq had been a mainstay of the pending plan's attractiveness to all involved. Then news started filtering through about the presence of latest generation Russian AWACs appearing in those far away skies. It was only a matter of days before it was realized that they were flying missions out of bases in South Ossetia, and that their capabilities included signal fixing which allowed for directed missions against ground targets that needed to be eliminated.

Certainly the planners in Ankara had to be aware of the already successful strikes over Syria by missles directed from Caspian Sea-based Russian naval units. But the final nail in the coffin came with reports that Russian aerial bomber assets were being positioned to fly missions out of Iranian air bases. Instead of prioritizing the diminishment of tensions between the two countries as a result of the November shoot down of a Russian jet, Ankara was content to rely upon whispered promise of support from the NATO alliance against any Russian aggression.

Meanwhile Russia had evolved a close tactical alliance with YPG Kurdish militias in operations against Syrian rebel groups. If long range bombers capable of precision strikes over the zone of intended advance were not bad enough news, the new attitude of their erstwhile western allies them to understand just how totally isolated they had become. There could thus be no guarantee of Russia not using their aerial superiority to protect those same Kurds against any Turkish offensive. Ironically, in the YPG-PKK Kurds the Russians now have a proxy force which can be more capably aimed at their enemy with destructive potential than Ankara's dissolving jihadist proxy force can be used to similar effect! Any advance across the border into Syria would be casus belli for just that scenario to unfold - to Ankara's acute discomfort.

Betrayed, in their minds, by the perfidious Americans once again, and threatened on their flank by bellicose Russians, the Ankara regime had no choice but to back off of the Iraq adventure, and concentrate it's army on pummeling it's own southeastern cities into ruin. On the international front, instead of accepting the grudging reality of need to deescalate tensions with Moscow, Ankara threw all it's weight into making common cause with all of Russia's enemies. With Ukraine in particular, the regime has attempted to create a common front against the Russians, such that the latter needs to stay committed to fighting on potentially two fronts. Of course, this has simply played into the hands of it's Kurdish opponents, who have been handed an opportunity to make an alliance with Moscow - which sees the same hand operating the levers of control behind both the middle eastern jihadis and the east European neo-nazi extremists.

It should be seen as no coincidence that YPG Kurdish forces are now receiving urban warfare training in Syria, as well as the weapons best suited for those special conditions. A porous border through which to send both gives the Syrian-Iranian-Russian alliance the means to keep Ankara's own southeastern border regions in such turmoil as to serious undercut the logistical strength and stability needed for a foreign excursion by it's own military. The Second Army in other words, can not afford to leave home!

And now, finally, we come to the last and most important piece of the puzzle. Last week there was a series of public statements from the mouths of several of the members of the governing AK Party in Turkey who were central in it's start up and subsequent success. These old guard insiders purged by the Erdogan faction have for the first time come out publicly with expressions of dissent to the demagogic rule of the President and his extremist followers. As respected and well placed party heavyweights these persons represent an internal opposition to Erdogan's reign of error which cannot be dismissed or suppressed as being 'coupist' or 'parallel' - a huge shift in political dynamics.

What this means in real terms is that there is a way opening up for the Armed Forces to focus on ending the slide towards suicidal foreign adventures and policy decisions that have effectively turned Turkey into a potential powder keg for a world war. Up until now, any move made by the military towards confronting or rebuking the Ankara regime would have resulted in speedy accusations of the kind of coup mongering for which there is zero support from any element of Turkish society. It would be a perfect storm by which the regime could decimate all remaining opposition in the military and civil society in short order. But the existence of a legitimate and well-placed internal opposition within the governing party itself changes everything. Erdogan's new public opponents represent the sidelined - but not inconsiderable - moderate element of the AK Party, as well as a potentially huge groundswell of public supporters from outside it's ranks, hopeful of reconciliation within and without the country before sectarian bloodshed starts to flow.

As such, they offer the Armed Forces a means of confronting the Ankara regime in such a way as to be the voice of 'the popular will' - a status which the neo-Ottoman's have jealously guarded for themselves to date! In light of the many previous coups by the military against the civil government in Turkey - the most recent of which was against the predecessor 'moderate Islamist' party to the AKP in the late 90's, there is no popular support for an army led government at all. Even a gambit like a 'temporary' military government committed to elections would fail to gain public support. But turning down further adventurism in Syria, and turning out the religious extremists of the Erdogan faction of the AKP becomes an extremely plausible route - IF it can involve turning over power immediately to a legitimate continuance of executive authority in the form of moderate political figures whose popular support cuts across party lines in potentially creating an emergency government of national consensus.

Because - keep this in mind - Turkey has indeed entered an emergency situation, in which it's chances of staying whole, territorially, and out of a total civil war scenario such as Syria has been plunged into, are considerably less than 50-50. Fatal foreign policy missteps have created an economic tail spin not even begun to make itself felt. Add to this the drying up of Saudi largess, and other illegitimate income streams and you have a sea of domestic troubles to go with self-created foreign ones! Stepping back from the brink will require that the true nationalists from the political sphere take a stand of moral courage which will set the stage for the true nationalists within the military to fulfill their duty to the nation. By handing it's sovereignty back to it's people, and away from those whose driving personal ambitions and sectarianism have taken the country to the edge of violent dissolution. What will drive things towards this conclusion is the increasing awareness within the armed forces of just who, and by how much, has profited from the hidden deals between terrorists, terror states, and their political proxies. Unlike the hapless Turkish public, the military is not cut off from all news of malfeasance and corruption on the part of the leadership in Ankara. Legitimacy is a tricky thing to hang on to, once it starts to slip from one's grasp. Today things are, though still very dangerous, therefore looking considerably less bleak than they have for the past several months.

p.s. Today the Ankara regime announced that negotiations between the Turks and Tel Aviv had been 'held up' by the Israeli side's wish to see Erdogan gone before an agreement. You can be sure that this smoke and mirrors is designed to hide just the opposite truth! The ground is creaking under the regime's feet, as more and more AKP faithful find it incomprehensible how Ankara has run to Tel Aviv for help and protection! The limits of credulity have finally been breached inside the Islamist fantasy Caliphate.

My response: I held off on saying Turkey invaded, simply because the alt media reports on the topic did not have the right feel to them. Thanks for the update from the ground there! 

NTS Notes:  Well, well.. It does appear that the truth does come out that puts all the bullshit we have been seeing over the last while to shame....

Lets do a reality check here... Turkey is itself a mess with Erdogan basically holding onto power in Ankara by a thread... It therefore makes more sense that Turkey does not have the resources and the troop strength to even attempt an expedition into neighboring Syria when in reality most of its forces are heavily tied down trying to suppress the Kurdish uprisings and of course their own citizens....

And yes, this report also puts to bed the reports that the "Turkish Second Army" would be the strike force selected for the Syrian "invasion"... In reality that army is involved in the suppression of the Kurdish uprising and is not in any shape or form ready for any "attack" into Syria....

I called it in my weekend rant where I stated that for Turkey to attack Syria would be "suicide".... And yes, it appears that all this rhetoric of a Turkish-Saudi "invasion" of Syria is nothing but pure propaganda and complete and utter bull shit.....

Yes, Russia and Syria are winning the war to free Syria, and the criminal American/Israeli/NATO cabal are most definitely behind all this fear mongering of this "impending intervention" into Syria.... It is time that people see that we are dealing with a fraud and that there is no way in hell that Turkey is even prepared for such an undertaking..... What we have here is the criminal cabal in this poker game "raising on a busted flush"!

Spread the word, everyone... Fear is a powerful weapon, and the truth here must be told..

More to come


1 comment:

Penny said...

North: I've been saying for a long time now that Turkey is being targeted by NATO and is being destabilized for the creation of 2nd Israel aka Kurdistan
The so called alt media has been claiming for a long time now Turkey has invaded Syria- way back, places like Moon of Alabama and Zero Hedge had already put tanks into Syria- but it hadn't happened. There have been many other alt media rubbish promoters including Mike Whitney and is it 'truth out'
Lots of baloney- I've tried to counter to no avail.
Turkey (non NaTO occupied will not enter Syria) But Turkey (NATO affiliated troops) might enter Syria

Turkey's entry into Syria will signal the death knell for Turkey as we know it
Erdogan isn't that stupid. He's survived this long by being many things, but, not stupid
Saudi Arabia is being set up- The US wants Turkey and Saudi Arabia to do their dirty work knowing full well it will destroy them both- So far they haven't take the bait- but stay tuned.

I'll leave a few links for your reading pleasure later, I'm working on something else presently

And btw: thanks for your condolences. The past little while has been hell-
I'm doing what I can for my youngest sister in what has to be one of the toughest situations one can face :(

I did appreciate the good thoughts sent my way :)