Saturday, August 22, 2015

The "No Nuclear Weapons" Conspiracy Theory: Great Article By Lasha Darkmoon, And My Own Take...

I have been inundated at this site for years by commentators asking me to take a good hard look at some articles written by some who have stated that nuclear weapons are a "fraud" and that the nuclear  bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki back in the closing days of World War II were nothing but frauds (!).... Many have asked me for my opinion, and I have not responded to them simply because my own knowledge of Physics and real history is enough to state clearly here and now that the nuclear weapons used on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were absolutely real, and that nuclear weapons are indeed real and very deadly....

I came across the following very important article written by Lasha Darkmoon, from her website "Darkmoon" at www.darkmoon.me, that perfectly summarizes what I and others have to say to those who continue to promote the idea that nuclear weapons are a fraud.... The article is entitled: "The "No Nuclear Bombs" Conspiracy Theory" and I have it right here for those who have not caught a glimpse  of it yet to see for themselves...I have my own thoughts and comments to follow:

The “No Nuclear Bombs” Conspiracy theory

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The idea that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were “firebombed” and that no nuclear weapons were used against them, because no such weapons even exist to his day, can be dismissed out of hand as arrant nonsense. Several of our best commenters, armed with historical facts, have pointed this out. Others, impervious to logic and factual information, persist in peddling the conspiracy theory that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were “firebombed” and that “no nuclear weapons” exist at all!
Political analyst Franklin Ryckaert, in a few choice words, has dismissed the above conspiracy theory as worthless trash. He points out correctly:
The political implications of atomic bombs being a fraud would be enormous. 
It would mean not only that the US had cheated the world, but also that the UK, France, Russia, China, India, Pakistan and Israel had been cheating the world in a similar way. 
The “treason” of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg would have been a fraud, and they would have been executed for nothing. 
The Israeli whistleblower Vanunu would have been lying also, by “exposing” Israel’s nuclear arms program when no such program existed. 
Israel would also be feigning right now to be concerned about a possible Iranian nuclear bomb, knowing that no such bomb had ever been built.  
As for the Cuban missile crisis of 1962, that too would have been a total fake, with both Khrushchev and Kennedy cynically aware that they were engaged in a bogus argument about non-existent WMD! 
Occam’s Razor would suggest that none of this nonsense is possible.
Beautifully put. There is simply no answering this. Ryckaert is the voice of common sense. He says what ought to be obvious to anyone with half a brain.
Apart from Ryckaert’s incontrovertible arguments listed above, other points need to be noted that are equally persuasive. If we are to accept the “No Nuclear Bombs” conspiracy theory, we would then have to believe that the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) was essentially a bogus organization. For if there are no nuclear weapons, there would be no raison d’être  for the IAEA. Its 22 member states, its Board of Governors, and its countless inspectors in numerous countries would all be engaged in fraudulent activities. 
If there are no nuclear weapons, what possible justification would there be for IAEA inspectors poking around in Iran, trying to sniff out hidden WMD? Are all these highly qualified scientists in fact no more than hardened cynics pretending to look for non-existent weapons? 
According to the conspiracy theorists, Yes!  The nuclear inspectors are just pretending that the world is full of non-existent nuclear weapons so as to justify their own existence! And also, in passing, to convince the world that America never used any nasty weapons of mass destruction at Hiroshima and Nagasaki! Good old America! Kind, compassionate America! Too nice to drop lethal atom bombs on any country! Instead, oozing with pity and humanitarian sentiment for their Japanese enemy, the Noble Warriors of Washington “firebombed” Hiroshima and Nagasaki, reducing them to rubble with tears in their eyes!
What a joke.
Before we go any further, let’s make it clear that the bombs dropped at Hiroshima and Nagasaki were different in design. Hiroshima got the first atombomb, Nagasaki the first plutonium blob. More people died at Hiroshima than at Nagasaki, but for various reasons I will not go into here, the bomb dropped on Nagasaki was considered more devastating — partly because it was intended by America’s Jewish-controlled administration to deliver a death blow to Christianity in Japan. This it virtually succeeded in doing, given that Nagasaki had always been Japan’s most Christian city, containing the highest concentration of Christians in all of Japan. The Nagasaki plutonium bomb was specifically aimed at St Mary’s Cathedral while Japan’s largest Roman Catholic congregation was celebrating Mass and receiving Holy Communion. The entire congregation was vaporized in a single instant at 11.02 a.m. on Thursday morning, 9 August, 1945 — much to the delight of the Jews in Washington who knew exactly where the bomb would fall.
Norman Thomas describes Nagasaki as “the greatest single atrocity of a very cruel war.”
Here are the statistics on Hiroshima and Nagasaki:
On August 6, 1945, the world dramatically entered the atomic age: without either warning or precedent, an American plane dropped a single nuclear bomb  (emphasis added) on the Japanese city of Hiroshima. The explosion utterly destroyed more than four square miles of the city center. About 90,000 people were killed immediately; another 40,000 were injured, many of whom died in protracted agony from radiation sickness. Three days later, a second atomic strike on the city of Nagasaki killed some 37,000 people and injured another 43,000. Together the two bombs eventually killed an estimated 200,000 Japanese civilians.  (See here)
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Another of our star commenters, Luca K, makes an excellent point that demolishes at one stroke the absurd conspiracy theory that Hiroshima and Nagasaki received the conventional “firebombing treatment”, i.e., that no nuclear weapons were used against them at all. Luca K writes: 
“For the loonies who seem to be here suggesting that the nuclear attacks against Japan were just conventional firebombings: Firebombings were carried out by huge bomber fleets, normally hundreds of aircraft. No such large bomber fleets were involved in the attacks against Hiroshima and Nagasaki.”
People who advance these absurd conspiracy theories fall into two groups: deliberate disinfo agents and the Useful Idiots who promote their lies without being aware they are muddying the waters by spreading deliberate disinformation. These kooks remain impervious to both facts and logic. Thus they appear to be entirely ignorant of the historical fact (to quote Luca K) that “firebombings were carried out by huge bomber fleets, normally hundreds of aircraft. No such large bomber fleets were involved in the attacks against Hiroshima and Nagasaki.”
Let’s consider Luca K’s important point.
The crucial difference between cities devastated by firebombing and cities like Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which were devastated by atom bombs, is that hundreds of planes in constant relays over several days are necessary for the firebombing of cities, whereas ONE PLANE CARRYING ONE BOMB was sufficient for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Here are some FACTS on firebombed cities:
On March 9-10, 1945, a wave of 300 American bombers struck Tokyo, killing 100,000 people. 1700 tons of bombs were necessary to accomplish this devastation. On May 23, 1945, “520 giant B-29 ‘Superfortress’  American bombers unleashed 4,500 tons of incendiary bombs n the heart of the already battered Japanese capital.” Two days later, on May 25, “a second strike of 502‘Superfortress’ planes roared low over Tokyo, raining down 4,000 tons of explosives.” (See here)
If Hiroshima and Nagasaki had been given the identical firebombing treatment, as the ignorant conspiracy theorists assert, they too would have required hundreds of giant planes dropping thousands of tons of explosives over several days.
We know for a fact—for the Japanese victims were themselves eyewitnesses to each atomic attack—that only ONE plane dropping ONE bomb was sufficient to accomplish the devastation at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The bomb dropped on Nagasaki, for example, weighed 10,000 pounds. Note that: pounds, not tons. 
For firebombing Tokyo, tons of bombs were necessary over several days. At Nagasaki, one much lighter bomb, weighed in pounds not tons, did the trick in nine seconds.
Like Tokyo and other Japanese cities, many German cities were subjected to firebombing. In all cases, hundreds of planes carrying thousands of tons of explosives were necessary over a period of several days in order to accomplish the devastation. Not one of these cities was reduced to ruins within a few seconds, as in the case of Hiroshima and Nagasaki,
The case is closed.
The conspiracy theorists and their Useful Idiots in spreading disinformation are welcome to make their views known here. Experience has taught us that such individuals are more to be pitied than despised. This is because, once these loonies have made up their minds to adopt a new conspiracy theory, they will remain resolutely impervious to all the facts and to every semblance of common sense and logic.
Let our esteemed commenter ‘Felix’, writing from Thailand, have the last word:
“I believe this no nuke theory is COINTELPRO. It is deliberately designed to discredit the alternate media and other valid dissident viewpoints. It’s the same as the theory that the Queen and other leaders are actually alien lizards set to rule over us.”


NTS Notes:  OK, here it is in a nutshell... Nuclear bombs are absolutely real, period... Those who continue to promote them as somehow being a falsehood are doing a disservice to those who were murdered back on August 6th and August 9th, 1945, at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.....  I look at many of them as being silly and either a nuisance to this real truth movement, or just as Lasha states.. Cointelpro disinformation agents out there to try to ruin the efforts of myself and others...

Yes, knowing what I know about nuclear physics, I dismiss those who stick to the idea of nuclear weapons as being a fraud as either disinfo agents or not knowing any better... I put them in the same group as those who continue to promote the laughable assertion that the Earth is flat as well!

And to those "flat Earthers" and "no nuke" readers of this blog.. If you do not like what I have to say, tough... I state facts and not fiction...  There are many other sites out there that you can read if you do not like my answers...

More to come

NTS

13 comments:

Mass Invandring said...

Wow, what an ignorant article. I can easily write an equally ignorant article claiming both the Holocaust and Apollo program to be real pointing to "all" the eyewitness accounts, logic fallacies, and the trust-me-I-know-the-physics/history arguments.

Aren't you claiming entire space program to being a fraud!?
Are you denying the existing of NASA? -Being a "bogus organization"…?
Wonderful argument.

I know, the events at Hiroshima and Nagasaki are not easily disproven but other than that there is very little to no credible evidence of the existing of any functional nuclear weapons. I mean come on, you can't possible believe the ridicules videos and all the ridicules Atomic Bomb propaganda. And how shortsighted of you not to see the political benefits of of having the world to know that America (or in reality the Jews) can't destroy the entire world at the click of a button.

This article did by no means convince me to the contrary. There is still some questions that need answering, but the whole debate still weighs heavily towards another great lie of the Jew.

Anonymous said...

All evidence points to the 911 attack on New York City as being Nuclear. Nukes were used at GROUND ZERO to bring down the World Trade Center Twin Towers :

http://www.911thology.com/nexus1.html

http://presscore.ca/concrete-evidence-shows-us-government-nuked-new-york-city-on-911

https://donaldfox.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/mystery-solved-the-wtc-was-nuked-on-911/

http://www.nucleardemolition.com/

Denying nukes exist is a dishonor to those who died at the World Trade Center on 911.

From : Trevor

Northerntruthseeker said...

I am leaving your "comment" up for everyone to see for themselves exactly what type of person comes in here with ridiculous statements...

And do not give me your crap about Hiroshima and Nagasaki being false... Thousands of eyewitnesses saw the one single plane over both those cities, and therefore the insane idea of "firebombing" of them falls apart instantly...

Interesting how you come up with my "denying" NASA however... I and others have never "denied" NASA's existence, other than the fact that many of their "space missions" are bogus.... Amazing how you twist that..... NASA has always been in it for military operations and for the money, plain and simple....

Give your head a shake and come back with something more plausible...

rubbell said...

The fact we are surrounded by great lies suggests equally great liars are at work. Early in life I made up my mind that if someone was stupid enough to nuke me, hell maybe it would be an easy way out. I am sure the powers out there are lethal but I never granted them the power of a God. I do not have the resources to find out what the reality of the Earth's shape or the nature of the firmament is and so I too speculate. Explain to me the stand offishness of the formally educated caste and their fanatical adherence to hierarchy. Would a group with such social habits use their knowledge altruistically or would they buttress up each others claim to social privilege? P.T.. Barnum said you can not go broke betting on the common mans stupidity.If this is true the possibilities for chicanery are quite vast, maybe as vast as space.

Anonymous said...

Take a look at this NTS:

http://heiwaco.tripod.com/bomb.htm

They were wooden cities and only the brick and concrete structures survived, no matter how weak they were....

Anonymous said...

Atomic Bomb Hoax..

Of course it is a hoax, like the Apollo Projects landings on the moon. Just take your time and start to read this article:
http://heiwaco.tripod.com/bomb.htm

You mention that you studied nuclear physics, so it must be a very simple task.

Oh and you can win one million euro to prove an atomic bomb work…
Oh and if you can make an atomic bomb work for real. I love the 10% finder fee. I'm too "stupid" as a Dutch engineer to do it myself...

You should be a little bit less arrogant in your article and prove your point of view with real facts..

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

I am not trying to argue with you on the subject and as it sits, I am still not sure what might be possible. Could I ask you to think about this scenario. Nuclear power yes, neutron bomb probable, phosphorus bombs, MOAB, radio active dust or particles. Is it technically possible to make it look like a nuclear explosion without actually being a nuclear bomb? Fire bomb earlier during the night then come by with one plane dropping a bomb that looks like a nuke? or Use a neutron bomb, MOAB Phosphorus combination. In any way, could a think tank of specific scientists have thought of a way to fake it?

If they did, they would need to be backed up, let people see them testing, what looks like a nuke, here, Russia etc. The scientists who inspect for nukes, naturally to keep up the illusion. If this were backed by say, some really powerful international power who pulls the strings on various governments at the same time. This "illusion" would keep, ummm shall we say lesser countries from wanting to get in a fight with the all new "super powers team".

U.N. Security Council now pulls the strings as the heavy weights, but do the IMF Bankers control these countries?

I am only asking, is it possible to fake it, technically???

If they had a reason, a plan, a manipulation, could a large enough powerful enough group have pulled it off to fool the world population and perhaps those countries they do not yet control.

If you do know enough about nuclear physics, is it possible they could not get it to work and faked it, technologically speaking is it possible?

That's all I am curious about, now if they could trick us technologically speaking does not mean they did, perhaps the nukes are real.

But is it even possible?

Anonymous said...

Eyewitnesses? Case closed?

Sounds like the claim that the jewish medias factual(undoubtedly) reporting on the Cuban missle crisis proves that nukes exist - obviously, idiot (the extent of this argument...forgive me if obviously fake nuke tests don't do it for me...or your nonsensical logic...

stevieb

Anonymous said...

Hard to understand where you get such arrogance without even understanding the argument...or presenting any material that contradicts it - "thousands of eyewitnesses'?? Pony up with source -a credible WW2 source (good luck) - or accept you're a complete fraud and hypocrite - because you've shown nothing. ...

Anonymous said...

Exactly...I'm left wondering if someone took the big payoff, because at one time I thought this guy was a serious researcher.....clearly not...

juanarg 70 said...

Do you accept the chance that they pulled 911 right in front of the world.. In plain sight. Imagine what they could do with enough bombers on a small city.. Then you just use some "eyewitnesses" and manipulating media the rest its done.

David N. Olson said...

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